Gibt es, aber nicht auf deutsch!
Kiskitrains E499 der CSD
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Hello, german railroaders,
The making of 372 is slowly coming to an end. Few more sounds, some additional scripting and it is done. But before I will give a final blessing to that class, I would like to ask - which route is the best for PZB testing? Personally I do not play them, as normally I do not make german locos. But this time I need an advice in this. What route, especially quick drive is the best for it?
Or - is it hard to make a short straight test route with your signals to test it? I do not know them at all. Who would be willing to do so for me?Thanks in advance.
Btw - it will have PZ80R program PZB90. That is some sort of prototypical PZB. The same like in, say, BR132/232 from vR. But I will have that control box functional
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Hi kiski,
That's great news!
The most obvious route for testing would actually be the Elbe Valley Route. That's where the locomotive fits in best.
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The most obvious route for testing would actually be the Elbe Valley Route. That's where the locomotive fits in best.
I do not own that one
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Hello Kiski,
great News from your 372 Projekt.
Out of the Box, Konstanz-Villingen ist a great Route with prototypical Signaling. I used it for my own PZB Project for the V200 for Testing.
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I think for testing the route doesn't really matter. PZB happens solely in the locomotive. I'd just make a simple test track with permanently active magnets - PZB is a simplex thing anyway, there's no communication with a signal other than that a signal will have its magnet on or off. So the PZB doesn't know or care for signals directly anyway.
You only have three types of triggers anyway, 500, 1000 and 2000 Hz which must trigger their respective program in the loco's PZB module. Active 2000 Hz doesn't need much, immediate emergency brake if Befehl40 not pressed. 1000 Hz lights up if brakepipe drops below 3.5 bar. I guess you know all that anyway.
That leaves the 500 and 1000 Hz prgram, of which the 1000 Hz script is the most complex because there can be multiple instances of a 1000 Hz influence happening in short distances stacked on top of each other.
What has often been done wrong (still in TSW) is the 500 indicator blinking as you pass its active magnet. That's not what happens, it will just be lit steadily and only start to blink if you've stayed under the Umschaltgeschwindigkeit for a defined amount of time, only then it blinks and goes to restricted 25 km/h mode, to avoid the driver accelerating against a red, it's all documented.
Zusi3 is an excellent sim to check for prototypical behaviour.
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Not quite sure if you´re right in some cases. In 372 class, 1000Hz indicator blinks when brake pipe drops below 3, not 3,5bar. And only when emergency brake (but only when it comes from PZB influence, not Czechoslovak LVZ) is not present (in other words until you FREI it
In case of PZB emergency, both 1000 and 500 indicators blink until you release it. In that case only 1000Hz indicator will stay blink until brake pipe is above 3bar.
Also, in case of AZ720 signaling panel, 500Hz indicator never blink. Not even in restrictive mode. Only thing that blinks is "PZB Ein" indicator, but that blinks under any mode, means 1000,500,1000restrictive, 500restrictive. Simply under any limitation.I have onboard videos from that class.
BUT what I do not know for sure yet is that if "Vü" is signalised after passing active 500Hz magnet or not. In standard situation after passing active 1000Hz and pressing Wachsam Vü is signalised on that small 7seg display according to appropriate limit depending on train type. But that limit change after you pass active 500Hz. And I need to know if in that moment Vü display change itself to new limit or still stay with previous one from 1000Hz. I guess it changes, but not sure.AZ720 attached...
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Yes, I forgot that this behaviour is loco-specific.
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It started finally....
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...and 90% done...
no baked shadows in the main texture, original CSD nubmering plate and ploughs...
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is she wipping?
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Testing...
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Now finally we´re standing on track
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Just to bump up the counter, I would be highly interested in a 371 variant as well as modern liveries (ČD, ČDC, DB)
It's always a bit difficult to create realistic scenarios with the old liveries, modern ones that fit the setting of routes and other rolling stock would make this beautifully crafted add-on much more popular I guess.
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Just to bump up the counter, I would be highly interested in a 371 variant as well as modern liveries (ČD, ČDC, DB)
It's always a bit difficult to create realistic scenarios with the old liveries, modern ones that fit the setting of routes and other rolling stock would make this beautifully crafted add-on much more popular I guess.
Maybe so, but I have no license for ČD and DB logos, thus their livery. While to make 371 is possible, I can´t officialy release it without facing accusations from those two companies. To get the license from ČD is not possible atm, because they are not giving it to anyone. No information about DB, though.
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I see. But community repaints wouldn't be a problem I guess?
I also know that other publishers have unbranded payware products and you can download the logos as a free repaint. Like this one: HVV Logo für Hamburger U-Bahn
Maybe this could be an option for you.
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Yes, that is an option. But first things first. And 371 is not just a mere repaint. Class 371 has different gear ratio for maximum speed 160km/h, features static battery charger, different compressor, radio, speedometer, etc. Plenty of work.
We'll see in the future.
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hello,
great to see the locomotive already on the virtual tracks. May I make a few suggestions? The DR logo appears very large to me and should be a bit smaller. The number of the driver’s cabs were smaller on the DR and placed below the logos. Only many years later in 2005 the adhesive numbers on 180 009 were placed down on the frame.
Thank you very much for your work.
lg, milchi
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