Train Simulator hangs and "slow signalling". Stirbt meine System langsam ab?

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  • So during the last years i've been having this strange issues where TS can suddenly hang for approx 10 seconds and then continue as nothing happened.


    Specs on my PC should be adequate. GTX1060 graphics. i5 3,4 ghz cpu. 16mb ram. However the ram is of mixed speeds, and TS does give an ssd many many reads due to the huge amounts of assets that are being loaded. TS has it's own SSD, it's only half full. I did update all drivers (bios, chipset etc etc....)


    Hang issues can be seen at 00:30:00 And two times shortly after another at 00:31:30. And many more times after that, untill the end. These are just examples, it happens many times, completely random, and on every route i own.


    I also have a signalling issue, that i suspect have to do with late loading of assets, causing trains in front of the player train to load late, thus causing signals that should be on warning, to fall back from clear to warning. I know people will fall on me for using a RSSLO route to show this, but i've only had this for a year or so, and never had any problems before. I have it on many routes, so it's not isolated to this one. This problem is newer than the hanging issue, but both seem to be getting worse. I am also noticing that the faster i drive, the more often i have this problem, which is why i suspect slow loading of assets might be part of the problem.


    Can be seen at 00:45:00 The distant signal falls from green to yellow.
    Or even worse at 1:16:00 where the main signal falls back to warning.


    Suggestions for solutions are welcome.


    Might it be hardware related or are there background processes that i should switch off? I have excepted TS from Windows defender.


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  • Kim_olesen1

    Hat den Titel des Themas von „Train Simulator hangs and "slow signalling. Stirbt meine Systam langsam?“ zu „Train Simulator hangs and "slow signalling". Stirbt meine Systam langsam ab?“ geändert.
  • TS2600 Yes that is ofcourse a hard place for TS, but it happens completely random. And many times on every route i play. Do you have hangs line this too? I am trying to establish if this is a natural thing that everyone has, or if i should dive into troubleshooting.

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  • Which programms are running on Your Computer addidionally. Which HD is working, Normal one or SSD? The normal one is defragmentated?

    ist this an extra tool, running in the backgrund?

    The lags are without Video-Tool also?

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  • StS


    It’s TS-Telemetry (build on simhub). The problem is there both when i use it and do not use it.


    The video is made with an external capture card box onto another computer, to make sure it is not that. And it happens no matter if i am using Nvidia Shadowplay, or if i am not recording at all.


    It also is completely random, and never in the same places. But it happens on every route i have.


    TS is on a seperate internal SSD. So no defragmentation.

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  • What exact model is your CPU? A new CPU might give you a huge performance boost.

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  • Test: Extra Routes Directory, (Original renamed in Routes_All, or so. ) onla a copy of the Route.

    Extra Assets Direktory (Original renamed in Assets_All, or so. )

    In this Assets-Direktory only Kuju (STEAM DLC; Tik Elap off and on) and only the Assets this Route needs. ( try a new installation of the assets, so the wast of the last Years ist not in the assets ) .

    Rw-Tools helps you or have a look in the Routes and Szenario Properties what is tiked for the Object Filter.

    Try to avoid to install not used Rolling stock, so the Provider directories are smaler.

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  • Gsonz It’s an i54670k


    I am considering it, but the motherboard is not the newest (Asus B85M-G) so it might not be easy to find a cpu with a socket that fits.


    But my point is that it’s gotten worse over the last year. And generally i have ok performance. I mean, that Brennerbahn upgrade from fsclips is quite hard on most systems, i could not run the top of the Brennerpass, on my old gpu, but with my new gpu (gtx 1060 8mb) it actually performs really good.


    But should those hangs be there? I mean, a bit of stuttering is what we expect from TS, but ten second hangs are quite severe. Specially when i am having them 10-20 times during a one hour play.


    StS Ok. Think i will make a full backup before doing that.

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  • it might not be easy to find a cpu with a socket that fits.

    You won't find a noticeably faster CPU for this socket. You'd have to buy a new motherboard + new DDR4 (or DDR5) RAM aswell. But if you are still happy with the performance then you don't have to upgrade of course.


    Regarding those hangs, they definitely aren't normal. Fps drops for one or two seconds can happen but anything that's worse than that looks like a bigger problem. I'd try to keep an eye at the PC's components (CPU usage, disk usage, RAM etc.) to somehow find a reason for the freezes.


    You can also check the health of your HDD/SSD with CrystalDiskInfo, maybe there is a problem with one of your drives (doesn't even need to be the one with TS installed).

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  • Gsonz Good points. And thanks for confirming this is not normal. Will look into the CrystalDiskInfo thing now. Thank god for coffee.


    Gsonz


    Here are the values for my TS disc. See picture. All other discs show good health.

  • Kim_olesen1

    Hat den Titel des Themas von „Train Simulator hangs and "slow signalling". Stirbt meine Systam langsam ab?“ zu „Train Simulator hangs and "slow signalling". Stirbt meine System langsam ab?“ geändert.
  • So i’ve monitored my system while running TS and found this. The SSD that my TS is on will randomly max out at 100% performance, while the cpu drops from 35% to almost zero.


    What causes this i have no idea, but this clearly is what freezes TS.

  • So your TS is waiting for the SSD to provide data, that's why the CPU usage drops and the game freezes.

    It seems like that SSD needs an incredibly long time to load data, for whatever reason.


    I'd move the TS to another drive to test if the problem persists. Even with an HDD you shouldn't have lags for more than 1-2 seconds. That's a tough case though.

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  • Just a hunch, based on the analysis and help from the community.


    I backed up the entire d drive (where my steam stuff is). Formatted the drive. Copied the backup back. The freezes are now gone :)


    Still, this probably means i have to get a new ssd very soon.

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  • How old she is, is not very important, more impoortant are the TBW.

    CrystalDiskInfo is a good Programm to check HDD/SSD's.


    And the other thing, SATA SSD's didn't like it if there are nearly full, it can also result in short freezes.

    Don't believe what your eyes are telling you, all they show is limitation, look with your understanding.

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