[JT] Italian Route Torino Novara

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\Audio\Pack Ambient\Citta 02.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\Audio\Pack Ambient\Citta 03.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\Audio\Pack Ambient\Citta 04.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\Audio\Pack Ambient\Citta Media.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita 1 rango.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita 2 ranghi.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita 3 ranghi.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita 3zo rango.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita avviso 1.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita avviso 2.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita Man 2 ranghi.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita Man 3 ranghi.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita Rid Avviso 1.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita Rid Avviso 2.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita Rid Man 2 ranghi.bin

D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Cast0213\Common\RailNetwork\Pack Segnaletica Linea\Velocita Rid Man 3 ranghi.bin

The TS/Tools program says these are missing. Windows is in English. The same applies to Hungarian language settings.

@fonok79

Ok, I'm rebuilding the assets now.

I'll then replace the old with the new one in the route.

The next build release will have it corrected. When, I've to check with Just Trains as soon as they will be back from Christmas holiday.

Amazing costumer service Cast0213

I have a question regarding the Minuetto. I've installed the SCMT plugin, and have the functions in RSC covered quite well.

A couple of questions (i am not having luck understanding the the manual since it's only in Italian, and it's huge so i can't work out what part to translate)

1 - Is it to boot into drive ready SCMT without all the Autotest, input data things happening? Ctrl X still initiates the autotest procedure.

2 - When all the autotest things are over and i try to drive, i get a rapid brake when passing 35km/h. It's not the "R" button as i do press that as soon as the warning tone sounds.

Zitat von Kim_olesen1

Amazing costumer service Cast0213

Hi Kim, not sure to have perfectly understood the 1st question but I try to answer anyway,

According to the plugin creator, there is no way to skip the SCMT autotest. In whichever mode you're switching on the loco (manual, automatic CTRL+Z or rapid CTRL+X), the autotest will have to be run completely. This is the same for E464 or for Minuetto, because is a procedure built in in the plugin.

At a certain time during the autotest, it is asked if you want to introduce the train data or to drive in "manovra". You've to choose one of the two to move the loco.

If you choose "Manovra" you cannot pass 30 kph.

If you choose "Data introduction", you've to set everything inside (too long to explain here, but as soon as I can I'll prepare a short movie).

Then, SCMT will calculate every frame a braking curve to fullfill the actual speed limit, the next speed limit, the following signals, etc etc. If with your speed you're above this braking curve, SCMT will act. I'm not a full expert on SCMT, but if I remember well as soon as you're 3kph above the expectation, there is some sound and visual warning, the traction is cut off and if this is enough to reduce the speed within the curve, nothing else happen. If you're above the 3kph threshold thatn the emergency braking start.

At least this are basic info I can write not knowing what was the condition of your test....

Kim,when i remember correct i had the same problem,but solved when set the

speed higher at the data input in the data screen.if you have the Scenario Pack from

Beluxtrains(available here in download)pls look in the manual as he gave some samples what to fill in there,

after this you can drive at given speed.

This is for the scenarios with the WG 464,

don't know the values for the Minuetto.

Cast0213

In this respect some question,i saw in a video that somehow it is possible to show the train length and weight,what must be typed to show it or is it in the scmt addon,or

maybe this was for the 464 only.

It is shown both on Minuetto and E464 by the SCMT plugin. As soon as you enter the field "Loco Mass" or "Train length", it should appear in the upper corner. At the end the scmt plugin is using the TSC function GetConsistLength and Get ConsistMass to show up the values. Using the default RSC will not require any data input

For the speed, you're right. You've to set the speed. Usually Minuetto is 160 km/h but it could be that the value entered depends also on the railway you're driving. (For this Mr. Codadilupo is more than expert).

Additionally you've to setup the number of drivers under the PdC field. Normally Minuetto has one driver only, but if you put 1, the SCMT system will reduce (for a specific italian procedure) the maximum speed, to something around 100 kph (I do not recall in this moment).

This is the reason why a lot of italian simmers use 2 as the number of "drivers".

Just a short hint in regards to the list of data to be introduced for the Minuetto (if experts find some of the hints wrong, pls correct):

Uso Locomotiva (Loco use) "In Testa" for the Minuetto

PMF (Braking mass perc) Depends on the route, but between 130 and 145 should be ok

Lunghezza reale (Real Length) It is suggested in the upper corner. It should be around 50 for a single Minuetto

Freno (Brake) "P" for the Minuetto. "G" is used for freight

Tipo treno (train type) "V" for the Minuetto. "M" is for freight

Vmax treno (max speed train) Minuetto is 160km/h. I'm not 100% sure that the max speed to be setup here depends also on the route condition. It should depends logically.

Rango (rank) "C" for the Minuetto (there was an error in one of my movie). This means that the speed board limit to be looked to when driving is always the lower one.

Rallentamento (Slowing down) "Treno" for the Minuetto "Loco" is for passenger train and other types

PdC (number of "man in cab") already explained

Massa (mass) It is suggested in the upper corner. It should be around 90 for a single Minuetto

Orario (time) Time of the day

Hope it helps

Cast0213

Your service is excellent as well as your route.Thanks for explanation.

I just before tested with the Minuetto and

it worked.

Cast0213 Thanks, everything works now. I wish there was a way to save the input data, because (and that’s just me, i know others love startup procedures) i just want to get into a relatively ready train and get to the fun. I think i will live with RSC for now, eventhough it feels like cheating.

However i know that’s not up to you but to WC.

New release is under testing. I hope as soon as possible to release it.

Main fix should be the assets with special char in naming corrected

Fix for no scmt plugin (release strategy still to be finalized)

Improved signal lights

Fix on some missing winter texture (especially on crossing level strail)

New 3d tracks model (strategy to include them still to be defined)

Good day everyone.

I'm a 26 years old developer with a passion for simulation. I've been simulating trains and planes for more than a decade and I've been lurking around without ever posting anything, but this release was a total surprise for me, looking around the internet for opinions I saw a bit of "drama" on this thread and I decided to register in order to share my quick two cents and possibly shed some light into the background of the scene and why this route is, in my opinion, extremely important.

The Italian train simulation scene is on life support - it's dieing. While in real life most endings are a new beginning, this is straight up just decades of work and collaboration slowly vanishing into the void.

There are just a couple of train simulation communities still alive, struggling to keep up with server costs relying on donations and with last posts dating to years ago.

My entire TS: Classic "career" was spent going back and forth from Torino to Asti on the SFM, because it's literally the ONLY electrified route that "just works".

There is no modern rolling stock for Italy except a few completely broken payware addons and for the E464 by Worcester-George, state-of-the-art freeware addon (the fact that the readme was compiled in LaTeX is just an hint at the amount of effort that probably went around the development of that locomotive).

Italian scenery is extremely diverse and complicated to reproduce, I've tried to create some routes and ended up spending entire weeks focusing on the same 10 square meters. Sometimes it is just not reasonable to jump into Autodesk Inventor and create a quick cuboid just to reproduce that one-story cyan house with a huge clock on the roof, even if it's right next to the railway and can be considered a "point of interest". Sometimes you JUST HAVE to find a compromise. I agree that expectations for payware can be high, but Kuju vegetation and buildings a little bit taller can work perfectly fine for me.

I have not yet bought this route because I already treated myself with hundreds of euros of flight simulation hardware, but next month this is going to be an auto-buy for me aswell.

You can tell that a lot of work was done: this is, to my knowledge, the only Italian route with working timetables, working signal repetition and working rolling stock that doesn't date back to the 90s.

If you want to drive trains in Italy this is probably *THE* route. Not going to argue with the price, it's subjective but I personally think it's fair, considering you can spend 15€ on payware rolling stock that is straight up broken. I've sometimes found myself paying 35€ for a burger and a bottle of water.

I want to thank Cast, Worcester-George, C. D'Albero and all the people I don't know who have been beta testing and working for us in order to finally enjoy proper Italian material and carrying the entire dieing scene on their backs. Congratulations.

Constructive criticism is inevitable but I believe some context has to be provided in order to truly appreciate this route. I'll try this route next months, can't wait.

Sorry for writing in English but I have a very basic knowledge of German.

Tschüss!

Ludovico.

EDIT: Couldn't wait, I just bought it. I'll try it and give you my final thoughts.

I am very interested in this line. However, I am waiting for your update.

One question: the manual states that ‘Signals: Pack Segnali Cast0213’ is a prerequisite.

I cannot find this download anywhere.

Thank you.

denisfl I’m pretty sure it’s included in the route.

Zitat von denisfl

I am very interested in this line. However, I am waiting for your update.

One question: the manual states that ‘Signals: Pack Segnali Cast0213’ is a prerequisite.

I cannot find this download anywhere.

Thank you.

Not sure to have understood which update are you talking, anyway the new release is coming soon with some bug fixes and minor update. Timing it depends now by the new installer to be prepared by JT that has to include an extra operation to check if the user has or has not the SCMT plugin (optional) installed. This is needed to copy a specific file that is different depending on it. With this new release should be corrected all the previous issues in regards to correct functioning of the route and the Minuetto also in computer that has not the SCMT plugin installed.

Additionally, there are some minor changes that can be summarized as follow:

- change of some assets in the common library to get rid of special char in file naming that was causing some "missing assets" in certain windows installation language

- corrected some winter texture missing

- corrected some night texture in a couple of buildings

- new full 3d tracks replacing the simil-3d original tracks

- corrected in the default RSC instruments the texture that now display the time when switched off

- added electric random sparkles in all the rolling stock (Minuetto and AI) in winter and autumn (light effect + particle effect)

- some sound changes on track when under a bridge,

- added one enhanced scenario (with AP weather) to show some scenario feature (announcement, display on station, dynamic destination and failure) already partially shown in one of the 3 presentation video's.

For the pre-requisites, it is not a pre-requisite of the route, but for the Minuetto to be fully usable. But the "Pack Segnali" is included in the route itself. This pre-requisite has been introduced in the manual in case in the future the Minuetto will be delivered not within the route (as it is currently). So you do not need to have anything else other than the full package, except for:

1) Required: European loco and assets pack (that most of the users already have because needed for a lot of products)

2) Optional: SCMT plugin to have the full features available.

Hope to have answered you!

Thanks Cast0213. It's a great Work.

I'm going to buy it to encourage this type of creativity and initiative. Well done!

dear Cast 0213, I bought your awesome route from Train sim.ch. I have a problem , I downloaded the WinRar file 4 times now but it shows rar file corruption. My email is support@bethlehemhosting.co.za

May i ask your help please, will send you my order number at trsinsim.ch as well as proof of payment.

Looking forward to hear from you

Kind regards

Gert

Zitat von Gertsteam

dear Cast 0213, I bought your awesome route from Train sim.ch. I have a problem , I downloaded the WinRar file 4 times now but it shows rar file corruption. My email is support@bethlehemhosting.co.za

May i ask your help please, will send you my order number at trsinsim.ch as well as proof of payment.

Looking forward to hear from you

Kind regards

Gert

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I replied you in the private conversation.

Gertsteam Du kannst das Entpacken getrost mal mit 7zip versuchen, geht bestimmt leichter (rechte Maustaste "Hier entpacken") wenn´s installiert ist.

Hi Eberhard, thank you, it worked with 7Zip.

Appreciate your help, thank you again .

Zitat von Gertsteam

Hi Eberhard, thank you, it worked with 7Zip.

Appreciate your help, thank you again .

It was simpler than I expected and I was not thinking to the winrar sometimes having problems! Thanks EberhardG