Guys, guys,
you really don´t read that manual... SIFA is supplemented with czechoslovak train safety system LVZ
Original loco (even your cerman variants) never had standalone SIFA device Look into manual how to operate it. Everything is in there.
Guys, guys,
you really don´t read that manual... SIFA is supplemented with czechoslovak train safety system LVZ
Original loco (even your cerman variants) never had standalone SIFA device Look into manual how to operate it. Everything is in there.
Gainmaster I think that german class 230 is weatehred enough. Also czechoslovak 372 010. You know, I make my skins from real photos, and usually do not add anything plus. If photos were not weathered, so is not the skin. I do not plan to do anything else with skins, except small mapping corrections that arise during creating another skins by Airvolk. All this will be part of update. I suggest not to make any skins until then.
BlackHawk Airvolk is the one who create skins for this class. Maybe also some others, but until now I´m not aware of anybody else. I made standard two that are part of installation and do not plan to make any else. That´s why I made a DevBonus folder, where are shadow map and mapping map located. Skilled repainter do not need anything else.
Alles anzeigenI'm really excited that this loco has finally been released. And after a couple of test runs, I have to say I am really amazed!
I already liked it back in the days in OpenRails.
The visuals, both outside and inside are excellent, modelling and textures. It operates really well, it has a lot of features and all the controls "feel" really nice, even though we just press buttons on the keyboard...
It's a lot of fun to drive this loco with the resistor and shunt notches and serial/parallel ranges, which is someting that we don't have in our German trains.
The sounds are also mostly good and detailed. However, there are some things that can be improved in my opinion:
- The compressor has an audible loop. As far as I can tell, it is the same sample that is used in the ZSSKC class 131, but there the loop points are done better. Maybe you can adjust yours as well.
- The traction motor sounds are the same as in the X6X, with the same problem: It's the same stereo (?) sample interior and exterior, which means that there is no Doppler effect when the train passes by. It also appears to be overly loud in the total mix of the sound.
- The ventilation sounds are one of the most characteristic things about this loco, and unfortunately they don't match that well yet. Again I'm comparing with the ZSSKC 131, which has a similar traction control, and there the ventilation sounds are done very well.
But as I've read above, there is already a sound update in progress by Kal000px , which I'm looking forward to
Also thanks to Airvolk for your work on more liveries.
All in all, this loco fills a long standing gap in the Czech-German TSC world, so thanks a lot kiski for your work!
Hi.
First of all, thank you. I put a lot of work into model itself and tried to do my best. Especially pantos were pain in the ass, but luckily I beat them 😉
Secondly - compressor sound is not from ZSSK 131. It' been recorded on real 372 class by my friend that drive them irl. I have no better sound, so this will stay untouched in update.
Traction motor sounds are taken from peršing, as they in reality share the same type, so the gearbox. But Dominick already made them anew, so they will be altered. Not aware if only interior or all of them, as I do not have them yet, he's still about to send them to me.
Ventilators - again, they were taken on real machine too. But you know, every machine on its own 😉 interior samples will be added, but exterior will stay, as there's nothing else we can do with them.
I have finally found what glitch is in PZB code, and already all is corrected.
Stay tuned for update. All customers will be informed via mail.
A bug in PZB code has been reported - passing 1000Hz magnet with speed higher than Vu Normal will cause emergency braking. This will be corrected in upcoming update among other things.
I have scripted PZB for the first time, so please excuse possible bugs. Thanks.
Jetzt konnte ich fahren. Juhu, die Lokomotive macht wirklich Spaß! Vielen Dank an kiski für diese wunderbaren Lokomotiven, was für ein Gewinn für das TSC und die Fans der 230 und 372.
Ich habe noch eine Frage: Ich kam zu einem Signal, an dem ich die PZB bestätigen musste, aber leider hat die PZB die Notbremse betätigt, bevor ich das Signal erreicht hatte. Ich hatte nicht einmal die Möglichkeit, den Knopf zu drücken. Wie kann ich die Zugbremse wieder lösen, da sie immer mit 100 % Kraft wirkte? Egal, was ich versucht habe, sie hat nicht Gelöst.
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Now I could drive. Yay, the locomotive is really fun! Many thanks to kiski for these wonderful locomotives, what a boon for the TSC and fans of the 230 and 372.
I have one more question: I came to a signal where I had to confirm the PZB, but unfortunately the PZB activated the emergency brake before I reached the signal. I didn't even have a chance to press the button. How can I release the train brake again, as it always applied with 100% force? No matter what I tried, it didn't release.
Hi again, I´m glad you finally enjoy them.
When such situation arise and you get the emergency brake from PZB system, you must immediately move the train brake lever to N (Z) position (look into manual which position is that). if you won´t do that, brake controler is still connected to main reservoirs, so all air will flow away through emergency ventil. This will prevent you from loosing the air in reservoirs. Wait for loco until it stops and press Frei. You must be stationary to release yourself from PZB emergency. When it is done, move the train brake lever again to J position to fill up the pipe again, thus release the train brake. Beware, if you do not have enough air in reservoirs, you won´t be able to fill up the pipe - because simply you have no air to fill. It´s a bit of trickery ![]()
One more thing - be careful if you get the emergency braking from PZB or from LVZ, which acts as SIFA when PZB is active.
DonMattheo
Auch mit Schnellstart Funktion, habe ich es leider nicht geklappt, und es steht immer, das die Lok aus ist, obwohl die Lüfter laufen, der Stromabnehmer gehoben ist, Bremse sind auch okay. Siehe Bild.ICHch weiß eich nicht weiter, habe auch keine Lust mehr, muss ins Bett. Werde es morgen nochmal versuchen, aber ein Video wäre wirklich sehr Hilfreich.
Of course it won't work. You haven't read the manual properly or at all. Direction lever must be in P when you want to notch up. You have it in far front position - V. Those position are for shunting resistors during the ride. Once again - read that manual.
Also ich habe gerade mal versucht Aufzurüsten, aber habe es wie nicht anders erwartet, nicht hinbekommen. Die Lok aus den Video ist nicht gleich mit der 230. Ich hoffe das kommt noch ein Video.
To start up that loco is not so hard. Especially if you have an english manual, made especially for foreign customers. I made that video for Peršing because that loco lacks english manual. But this one do not. It is just few steps to be taken to make it run ![]()
For those who have problems with startup - there´s english manual in Railworks / Manuals / EN folder
371 and DB180 are planned already. But I have no license for using ČD and DB logo. ČD won´t give me permissions, and I haven´t contacted DB yet.
Btw, that link to video is for E499.3 Peršing. Not for Bastard.
Hi guys,
class ČSD 372 and DR 230 are available for sale ![]()
Please, read the manual, guys, before you start to drive that machine. It is not so common for you, on contrary with, say, czech and slovak community, where guys are used to ride such locos. It has many things differently compared to your original locos.
Check: Railworks / Manual / EN.
UPDATE is out!!! Last version: v1.2.1
Understandable, but 372 010-9 has 2 other paintings, in blue (they are she called smurfette) and the CD Cargo painting.
But i think, thats a work for repainters
True, but again - I have no photos for it. I´m sure SK/CZ community wll make some repaints. You know, this loco class is located in the north of Czech Republic, and I´m from Slovakia. No way I can take photos by myself, I would have to travel 700km. So as you said - work for repainters.
Btw, locos have a small bonus in their folders - each one of them has their own shadow map and mapping provided, so it will be much easier for repainters to make some suitable repaints. Look for DevBonus folders ![]()
im Hoping theire Realesing soon i Hoped someone makes a 230/163 with German Saftey System
It should be 230/372, not 230/163
but that´s just a cosmetics.
Can I pay for my purchase with PayPal? What payment options are available? Where can I buy the 2 soon? Please provide a link. Thank you very much.
Of course I will provide the link, when all will be ready and settled. Paypal, Comgate payment gate, ApplePay and GooglePay are possible paying options.
What liveries will be available? I'm hoping for lots of repaints in the colors that aren't being produced! I understand it's not possible to do all liveries due to licensing and the associated issues.
Sorry to dissapoint, but only those two you see on the picture. My models mostly use textures created from photos, not painted ones like, say, vR models. Therefore I do not have proper materials for more. But I'm sure skin creators will do their job. And there's also licensing issue as you mentioned yourself.
A PZB model where you can also set the train type O, U, and M. (85, 70 and 55) Important for passenger or freight trains. kiski
Train types are selectable of course. Not directly, but depeds on the code you enter on controlbox above the front windows. As is PZB test.
I think the question was about something different.
Honestly I only know PZB messaging systems from Romanian locos. In general, if you want to use PZB, it's quite easy to learn and then you don't need these messages anymore, so they are rather annoying than helpful.
So if you really want to implement a PZB messaging system, please make it switchable and default off.
Ok then, I will make it switchable and default Off.
Hi all,
I have a question. Regarding PZB, would you like to have switchable message system, or would you prefer more costant PZB messaging?
milchi I see no problem in moving cab numbers. But DR logo will stay as it is now, because it is already baked in the main texture. There would be much work in resizing and color retouching.
Yes, that is an option. But first things first. And 371 is not just a mere repaint. Class 371 has different gear ratio for maximum speed 160km/h, features static battery charger, different compressor, radio, speedometer, etc. Plenty of work.
We'll see in the future.
Just to bump up the counter, I would be highly interested in a 371 variant as well as modern liveries (ČD, ČDC, DB)
It's always a bit difficult to create realistic scenarios with the old liveries, modern ones that fit the setting of routes and other rolling stock would make this beautifully crafted add-on much more popular I guess.
Maybe so, but I have no license for ČD and DB logos, thus their livery. While to make 371 is possible, I can´t officialy release it without facing accusations from those two companies. To get the license from ČD is not possible atm, because they are not giving it to anyone. No information about DB, though.
Hello, both versions will be in the install package. So you get them both once bought.