Beiträge von jstange

Zitat von Gainmaster

Also eben kam eine Rückmeldung. Es wird an einem Update für die Baureihe 261 gearbeitet und auch für die Kesselwagen!

Hier mal die original E-Mail:

Hello Rene,

We are
currently aware of the issue you have described, our developers are working on a
fix and we hope to distribute it on Steam once complete.

Please accept
our apologies for any inconvenience caused by the issues you are experiencing.

Gruß

Rene´

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This is a generic answer they usually provide. I'm not saying they won't update it, but I recall getting this answer on at least two occasions and nothing ever happened. And one of the issues was reported two years ago!!

Confirmed - U5 vehicle is really causing the performance hit. If I take a scenario where I get lower FPS and delete a few U5 consists using RWTools performance is suddenly much better.

Maik from vR just replied in the thread on UKTS: he sees the performance problem is in the U5 scripts (as suspected). Please see here:

http://forums.uktrainsim.com/v…=t&sd=a&start=60#p1745165

I think the author should fix that or at least create that special AI version with less scripting inside. I will definitely notify JT about this. And if there are others here like me that think the performance is not really acceptable, I think you should drop an email to JT as well. The more people report this the more attention it will get.

Hello,

I purchased the add-on as well, very good and unique experience indeed.

However there is one major problem for me: the add-on's performance. While performance in QD is excellent, scenarios with traffic are a pain - I usually get only 20-25 fps, no more than 30 in most cases, which makes the experience rather stuttery. It is quite apparent that the performance hit is caused by the U5 as running as AI traffic. Holzroller at UKTS advised that alTerr, the product developer, appears on this forum from time to time, therefore I'd like to ask if there would be any chance to create a special AI version of U5, I believe this would improve performance dramatically.

Apart from some small issues, this is the only one that is bugging me. Would be great if it could be remedied, at least partially.

Zitat von Stefanix19

Why do you don't update on the TS2015? In the Shop stay, that it isn't compatible for the TS2014.

I have both TS2015 and 2014 on my HDD, both running fine. Some routes simply look better in TS14 (B-W with Seddin for one) due to the bright horizon issue.

Anybody had a chance to test it in TS14?

I recently I encountered a problem with the Seddin expansion that I describe in the vT support forum:

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I have come across a weird problem in the second scenario (Heavy oil to Leuna it is I think). Everything goes ok till I get to a single track section that takes me off of the mainline from Seddin and leads to the main line track to Wittenberg. There are two signals there: one with yellow and a small white light, second one with green and a small white light. I was going around 35 kph via the first and approx. 55-60kph via the second and I got PZB emergency braking on each (vR BR232).

Does anybody have any idea what's the meaning of those two signals (I could not find it anywhere) and how am I supposed to drive through that section?
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Trying the scenario again with BR 120 I had the same problem and it looks like the problem is not with the signal itself (at least not the first one), but close behind this signal there is a 500 Hz magnet. This time I was driving at 20 km/h with BR120 and I still got emergency braking. The PZB help message said there was a 500 Hz magnet.

Per what I know 500 Hz magnet should not require you to drive slower than 25 km/h. I can't figure out why I would be getting the emergency braking there other than the Zugart U speed limits are incorrectly set in vR's PZB. Or am I missing something?

I already tried vr br232 and br120 el.

Ok, I re-posted here:

vR BR120 EL/BR232 PZB Issue (Zugart U)

So the problem looks to be more like it is loco-related. I posted a question at uktrainsim, maybe vR have a problem in their PZB.

http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=361&t=139071

I have not purchased this yet - I actually decided to better wait until TS2015 arrives.

I see you report an issue that PZB in-cab lights do not work properly when you switch to the rear cab? And even when tunring PZB on off does not fix it? And what happens if you switch the cab back, it works?

Thanks a lot.

Zitat von bernd_NdeM

Hi @jstange,
I will try to give you some historic remarks in English. I hope, it is good enough. When DB took over DR, DR had two electric engines in development, the class 252 und the 212. DB took the decision, that they needed the fast class 212 (now 112) with 160 km/h speed. But of the class 252 already the four engines where delivered to DR. But DB had developed the most advanced class 120, the first modern three phase AC-locomotive. This locomotive was designed for universial purpose, for fast IC-trains and for freight trains. DB didn't need the class 252( now 152) with its conventional design of a traditionel ac engine. But the electric engine had a successful design and in Dresden the responsible railroders needed this powerful engine for the rough mountain route from Dresden via Chemnitz to Reichenbach. So the four engines survived for a while. That they have a successful design you can notice, as they are quite heavy used by the MEG.

Regards
Bernd

Back on Friday I completely missed this comment of yours. Thank you very much for that, interesting history indeed...

Thinking about the whole matter again, I also realised my original post and the criticism within may have sounded too harsh. However when one thinks about the overall context you realise one simple fact: even if that cab would be wrong (which we now know is not the case), vR still deliver high quality products, products that in German scene hardly have any competition and all that at a very reasonable price. Honestly speaking - where would we be without vR? Imagine you would now remove all their stuff from TS. Can you even think of it? I can't. If they did not exist I would probably not be driving German routes at all.

Another thing is their excellent support. If you ever contacted them, look at their replies and compare them to DTG/RSC. Two different worlds.

Overall my point is we should all be glad vR is around. At least I for one am grateful they are. And hope it will stay this way long time into the future.

Zitat von NoFly

Yes, I think, this is the result of the discussion. Here is a picture from 2004, where you can see MEG documents within the 801 cab.

Now this is an interesting proof indeed. This means that most probably the MEG repaint is OK too, but the DB one is fine for sure. All is settled then and my sincere apologies to vR!

If you get any details from someone from MEG, please post them here, it'll be much appreciated.

Thanks a lot to everyone here and sorry again, Maik and Ulf!

Is my understanding of the latest discussion correct that with DB the cab was for sure still the old one (and may be some years with MEG as well)?

If so, my apologies to vR, I was too quick to judge, although the evidence seemed strong...

Zitat von siebziger

If you don't like it, leave it. Nobody is twisting your arm to buy it. But please stop muttering about it.
By the way: what do you get elsewhere for those 2.000 pennies?

Cheers
Norbert

There's no need for this, I just expressed my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I have many vR products and I very much enjoyed every one of them. However EL products, by their definition that vR have always been promoting, they should provide very realistic experience, so I would simply never expect an EL loco to have a cab that would not quite closely match the real one. Of course, no-one is forcing anyone to make the purchase and I still think even the DB version is a good product at a good price, but under the current circumstances it probably should not be advertised as EL or there should be a warning that the cab is not prototypical and does not match its real counterpart. Period.

On the contrary I never complain about price, it's up to vR to set the price as they see fit. If they'd ask for, say, 25 or 30 euros for it with an accurate cab included, I'd be happy to pay it. Given the way it is I'm just rather disappointed, that's all.

Maybe I will still get the package as it is though.

Zitat von BlackHawk

It is true, but it is not easy to make a cab and the DR Class 252 / DB AG Class 156 have different cabs

The old DR Cab from 252 004 (that one is used by vR): http://file1.npage.de/005176/19/bilder/fue156004.jpg
The new cab from DB AG 156 004 & later MEG 804: http://bahn.startbilder.de/102…stand-meg-804--175278.jpg

And afaik under the old Owner, Deutsche Reichsbahn, the cabs was a little bit different too.

So, lot of work do make different cabs for every Version

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Yes, I found the pictures too in the meantime... how disappointing. I think if one gets an EL-level loco for 20 euros there should be a reasonable representation of the real cab expected. I don't care paying 5 euros more if vR want to have the extra time paid, but it is rather hard for me to use a loco for which I know the cab is re-used from another model.

The DR version is apparently OK (and I don't mind if a small detail is wrong there too), but I am generally not interested in the DR era.

Zitat von BlackHawk

Correct, it means there are inaccurate.

All Versions have the same cab, but in reality they are different

Hard to believe that vR would release an expert line version of a loco with a wrong cab? Could it be that some of those 4 locos had their cabs rebuilt when transferred to DB and some not?

I see the image of the cab in the discussion here...does it mean the cab for the DB and MEG versions is inaccurate?

Does anybody know if there's already a video somewhere? Would first like to see it before purchase.

Additionally could someone please tell me if this one has the wiping delay bug as the BR120 or it's OK this time?

Thank you very much.

It is vw78I6 and 78L6, but actually now I think it may have been my problem; I probably did not confirm the first yellow using Wachsam and on the second one I was stopped by going over the restrictive monitoring speed limit.

Unfortunately I saved the scenario right before this section and now when I load it it complains about broken consists, so I'll probably have to restart the scenario from scratch.

I will try again tomorrow and will post here my result.